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Should permanently banned members be named publically?

Poll ended at Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:01 pm

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Re: Would you like a banned members list?

Post by Madii » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:04 pm

TOXIKITTY wrote:Like the thing that was going on a few weeks ago about people posting in old show offs (which I saw mentioned in the "Posts that don't deserve their own thread" thread), you're not likely to know this might annoy people if you're a new member. Maybe something that explains how it's polite to search for old threads that might cover your question before starting a new thread. What sorts of post people don't mind being "necro-ed", and which they do.
Yeah, see, I really wish this was covered in the the A&P rules, which is mainly where the problem comes from - people wanting to be able to sell there, and so postwhoring useless posts to get their count up. The mods did discuss that it was very hard to enforce it and set out clearly what the criteria for "useless posting" was though, which I guess is why it hasn't made it in there.
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Hah, well we've certainly started something, but I trust the members of this forum to keep it to calm and civil debate rather than descending into chaos. This is an exchange of opinions and mature discourse, right, ladies?
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Post by ScarletLady » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:06 pm

but of course... ;)
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Post by sammu » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:08 pm

Yes, Wifey. :3

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Re: Would you like a banned members list?

Post by Vicsarina » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:08 pm

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Post by Pallidity » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:58 pm

I wasn't trying to make anyone out to be a horrible, evil person :) I also wasn't suggesting sugar coating things, just that there is a difference between sugar coating, being neutral and being rude. Once everyone starts calling each other sweetheart and dumpling to start off their reply I'll probably argue how silly that is, too :P

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Post by sammu » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:12 pm

Ah, it's all cool. ;)

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Post by Madii » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:48 pm

Pallidity wrote:I wasn't trying to make anyone out to be a horrible, evil person :) I also wasn't suggesting sugar coating things, just that there is a difference between sugar coating, being neutral and being rude. Once everyone starts calling each other sweetheart and dumpling to start off their reply I'll probably argue how silly that is, too :P
Oh, dumpling, I completely agree.
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Re: Would you like a banned members list?

Post by VixenSingsBlack » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:13 am

The vote definitely seems to be land sliding towards making public those who have behaved improperly on this board. Anyone have suggestions about where this information should be displayed? My opinion is up top with the "Forum rules - Read BEFORE posting." Every new person who signs up will see it, perhaps scaring away any rudies, and it's simple enough to inform current members where to look.

Pretending that the list is approved, where would be the smartest/most diplomatic place to put said list?

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Post by Madii » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:47 am

"Site Details" looks like a good place to put a sticky, since it covers "News and Announcements". Forum Rules equally so, since that is the place where the issues of discipline and order on the board are covered. I'd say either of those sounds like a logical place.
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Post by Ice_Pick_Abortions » Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:06 pm

i'd stick it in the off topic section too personally
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Post by Pallidity » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:28 pm

I think Forum Rules would probably be the best, I'd think.

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Post by trippytroll » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:44 pm

i agree there are a lot of people on here that are just dam right rude which is totally uncalled for and yes i agree with another memebr in my eyes they are just as bad as scammers etc, at the end of the day you only have to be polite, its not thats hard really. using the search thingy does not always come up with the thing your after and also people like to interact aswell by getting to know the community (im not saying its ok to keep posting obvuios things)i know a lot of mebers on here have been really put of from coming back due to the dam right rudeness of people and these are the kind of people i would like to see banned too, yes they might be valued members or wot not but if they are upsetting people by being rude and aggresive is it worth having them on here and it always seems to be the same people that quickly react with such aggresive rude and uncalled for comments, i cant understand for the life of me why they think its acceptable to speak to people like that, i know you get a lot of bitching on forums but its bang out of order i feel and like halocaustic i think said about looking on their profile and seeing it says warning maybe only to mods well even if we could see that i think would be great as well cos i would totally steer clear of the person knowing they are just a trouble maker
i think its always good to know why people are banned and the ones that have been given warnings too.
(ive been on the boards since we were on the ezboards and i must say this one ive found to really rude and agreesive compared to the others) so i can totally sympathise why alot of people dont bother coming back.)
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Post by halocaustic » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:58 pm

trippytroll wrote:i agree there are a lot of people on here that are just dam right rude which is totally uncalled for and yes i agree with another memebr in my eyes they are just as bad as scammers etc, at the end of the day you only have to be polite, its not thats hard really. using the search thingy does not always come up with the thing your after and also people like to interact aswell by getting to know the community (im not saying its ok to keep posting obvuios things)i know a lot of mebers on here have been really put of from coming back due to the dam right rudeness of people and these are the kind of people i would like to see banned too, yes they might be valued members or wot not but if they are upsetting people by being rude and aggresive is it worth having them on here and it always seems to be the same people that quickly react with such aggresive rude and uncalled for comments, i cant understand for the life of me why they think its acceptable to speak to people like that, i know you get a lot of bitching on forums but its bang out of order i feel and like halocaustic i think said about looking on their profile and seeing it says warning maybe only to mods well even if we could see that i think would be great as well cos i would totally steer clear of the person knowing they are just a trouble maker
i think its always good to know why people are banned and the ones that have been given warnings too.
(ive been on the boards since we were on the ezboards and i must say this one ive found to really rude and agreesive compared to the others) so i can totally sympathise why alot of people dont bother coming back.)
People need to start complaining if they think someone has been rude to them. If no-one complains, we don't tend to always see it as a problem. If someone is getting upset about comments made to them, that's a whole different ball game.
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Re: Would you like a banned members list?

Post by VibrantDoll » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:08 pm

I'm just going to pipe up and say that that makes me very nervous. I've been on the boards for almost two years (including HH) and it scares me to think that someone could decide that they don't want me on the boards anymore because I said I didn't like their dreads.

I'm sorry to say it but without a clearly defined rule about rude comments, it will become nothing more than a popularity contest. And that's when a lot of people will just say, "Yeah......I'm done." What I think is rude and what Halo thinks is rude and what MissAnthropik thinks is rude and what TenderTendrils thinks is rude and whomever else, is all different stuff. Rude is subjective, I'm sorry but it is.

Hopefully I'll never be on the radar enough to be considered for a ban, but if people are being banned for slight infractions as trippytroll implied, I'll definitely not be a bigger part of the community as it would be very rough on the mods to keep it from becoming a popularity contest.....I always lose popularity contests. ~_^

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Post by halocaustic » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:24 pm

VibrantDoll wrote:I'm just going to pipe up and say that that makes me very nervous. I've been on the boards for almost two years (including HH) and it scares me to think that someone could decide that they don't want me on the boards anymore because I said I didn't like their dreads.

I'm sorry to say it but without a clearly defined rule about rude comments, it will become nothing more than a popularity contest. And that's when a lot of people will just say, "Yeah......I'm done." What I think is rude and what Halo thinks is rude and what MissAnthropik thinks is rude and what TenderTendrils thinks is rude and whomever else, is all different stuff. Rude is subjective, I'm sorry but it is.

Hopefully I'll never be on the radar enough to be considered for a ban, but if people are being banned for slight infractions as trippytroll implied, I'll definitely not be a bigger part of the community as it would be very rough on the mods to keep it from becoming a popularity contest.....I always lose popularity contests. ~_^
Saying you don't like someone's dreads isn't rude and none of us would think that. We are aware of differences of opinion and that's fine. Yes, rudeness is subjective....but sometimes is blatantly obvious when it's uncalled for. That's why nothing is ever done without a moderator majority vote. We're not going to start banning people just because someone's feelings have been hurt, but then again we don't want people to feel that can't come forward and complain if they feel they're being unjustly attacked. We're pretty good at looking at each situation for what it is.
Hopefully I'll never be on the radar enough to be considered for a ban, but if people are being banned for slight infractions as trippytroll implied, I'll definitely not be a bigger part of the community
You're aware that we have already banned people for being rude? It takes a lot for us to consider it to be genuinely rude and unacceptable, but we would encourage people to say to us if they feel victimised. I'm sure you wouldn't want us to ignore it?
You'd be surprised at the amount of drama that goes on behind the scenes here...that we deal with all the time. We try our best to do what we think is right for the majority of our members.
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Post by MrsEss » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:47 pm

if i don't like work that someone has done, i don't post a comment - not saying that every post that hasn't got a comment from me means i don't liek what you did, but yeah. why say: i don't like the work you've made, when you could simply keep it to yourself?

yesterday & today there were "rogue" posts in the sho off section, about where to buy extentions & buy your weft from me. i replied, but simply pointed them to the rules, asking them to read them before posting anything.
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Post by ScarletLady » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:55 pm

As far as I'm aware there is a warning system in place so if people were maybe being bit close to the mark and it upset someone they'd get a warning before it got to the point of banning. We can't just ban people because of personality clashes etc - I'd say it's worse after you've been warned but you continue to do it...some people are very diplomatic, some are tactless...some are thick skinned and some very sensitive...I can't even begin to imagine the work that goes into moderating a board like this :roll:
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Post by MrsEss » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:01 pm

Yus - agreed Liz.
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Post by Pallidity » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:14 pm

As it's slowly being beaten into my head (lol) I'm starting to agree that rudeness is fairly subjective. Even if you report it to the mods/admins, they're still using personal judgement to decide the matter. The only objective way to deal with it would probably be for people to use the block option available and for the mods/admins to have stats on who's being blocked. Numbers couldn't have too much personal tinting to them, but just about everything else could.

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Post by MrsEss » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:47 pm

i was going to, but couldn't see it. i PM'd some mods to let them know
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Post by trippytroll » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:51 pm

VibrantDoll wrote:I'm just going to pipe up and say that that makes me very nervous. I've been on the boards for almost two years (including HH) and it scares me to think that someone could decide that they don't want me on the boards anymore because I said I didn't like their dreads.

I'm sorry to say it but without a clearly defined rule about rude comments, it will become nothing more than a popularity contest. And that's when a lot of people will just say, "Yeah......I'm done." What I think is rude and what Halo thinks is rude and what MissAnthropik thinks is rude and what TenderTendrils thinks is rude and whomever else, is all different stuff. Rude is subjective, I'm sorry but it is.

Hopefully I'll never be on the radar enough to be considered for a ban, but if people are being banned for slight infractions as trippytroll implied, I'll definitely not be a bigger part of the community as it would be very rough on the mods to keep it from becoming a popularity contest.....I always lose popularity contests. ~_^

youve totally got that wrong hon
you wouldnt get banned from just giving someone an opinion and besides warnings etc are issued first, youve totally misread what im saying, i havent once said people should be banned for saying one thing like i dont like your dreads, it doesnt work like that hon,
yes we do all have opinions as to what counts as rude and wot not but some people are extremely aggresive on here on numerous occasions and i feel we should be at least warned about these people, and yes a ban if they carry up upsetting people, alot of peeps dont reposrt things to moderators as they just prefer to leave out the playground stuff and ignore them or report the thread or block the user but some people on here have been really upset by comments made to them, which i feel is totally uncalled for.
and theres the block thingy button too
but peeps wont be banned for just saying horrid things,
and it would be like constant people who kept doing it not just anyone who wrote aa one post thing
im on mod on a few other sites and we wouldnt ban anyone for just being rude but if they were constantly aggresive and upsetting people then it would definitly be looked into but things like that arent always easy for a mod to judge anyway
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Post by VixenSingsBlack » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:54 pm

Good discussion ladies, keep it going. And please, speak up if you think people r out of line.

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Post by Vicsarina » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:47 pm

DreadstarMonstar wrote:i was going to, but couldn't see it. i PM'd some mods to let them know

Just for the record, the report button is the little red exclamation mark to the right of the post :)


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